Electrical – 2 way switch operates opposite to the preference

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I have two sets of 2 way switches in my new home but I prefer the lights to be off when both ends are in the "off" (as compared to regular switches) position. Conveniently there is one double 2 way switch that controls both downstairs and upstairs hall lights. I turned the MCBs for all the lights off and took this photo:

double 2 way switch

In order to make the switches off in the "off" position is the basic principle just to swap the blue and yellow wires from each cable?

Edit: Thanks to @JimStewart I realised that I needed to check one of the other switches to confirm the wiring arrangement, so here it is:

one of the remote switches

So my understanding is now that I need to swap the red and blue wires from each cable on the first switch, right? What other steps (aside from turning the power off again) should I take for maximum safety?

Best Answer

Here is a discussion (UK) asserting that there are two different ways of wiring a pair of double throw switches to allow toggle control of a load. However, probably either way can be set the way the OP wants by switching the non-common connections at exactly one switch.

https://www.electronicshub.org/2-way-switch-wiring/

This article points out that these switches break one connection before making the other. So if one switch is set in the middle, then the load is unpowered no matter what position the other is in. At least this is how these work in our house.

EDIT1 I am pretty sure that one can determine which arrangement is present by using a non-contact voltage tester on the switch, if the tester is sensitive enough to detect voltage in the box by touching to the outside. In the new "standard" arrangement line voltage is always present in both switch boxes even if one switch is set in the intermediate position (where the common is not connected to either "L" (traveler in US parlance)). In the old "alternative" arrangement this is not true. I have not yet formulated an exact detailed procedure.

EDIT3 Under a different assumption about the response of the non contact voltage tester, here is another test. The assumption is that due to the design of these switches when the tester touches the outside center of the toggle, the non contact tester signals voltage present if the common is hot, and does not signal when the common is not hot.

In the old 2-wire control arrangement, the load is unpowered, if and only if, the common in the switch next to the load is not energized. In the new standard 3-wire arrangement in the switch next to the load the common is energized in one load off position and not energized in the other load off position.

Also in the 2-wire arrangement in the box with the line hot the common is always energized, whereas in the 3-wire arrangement this common is energized in some switch positions and not in others.

Separately note (as the article states) that the three wire arrangement has one more wire in the section of cable connecting the two switch boxes. Including the neutral the 3-wire control cable will have four insulated conductors, compared to three insulated conductors for the 2-wire control arrangement.

In spite of the claims in the article linked to, right now I can't see any comparative benefit to the 3-wire arrangement.

EDIT4 As I understand it the OP wants the switches connected so that the light is powered when the switches are set differently (one up and one down) and so of course unpowered when the switches are set the same (both up or both down). I think this would be the conventional arrangement for the 3-wire control.

I can think of one practical reason to adhere to this convention. If one is using modern active switches that consume power to operate, then the double throw switch must have both a neutral connection and a line hot connection.

The 3-wire control arrangement has a (constant) line hot in both switch boxes at a particular contact and this does not change even momentarily when either switch is flipped.

In the 2-wire control arrangement the line hot in one box is momentarily interrupted every time the switch is changed in the other box and the hot changes from one contact to another. This works OK for simple mechanical switches, but I would think, but don't know for a fact, that the power consuming smart switches might require one particular contact to be the one connected to (always on) line hot.