Electrical – Neutral and Live both hot when switch is turned off. How to connect the new light

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I'm attempting to swap out a ceiling light in a 100 year old house. I have found what appears to be 3 hot (black) wires bound to one of the previously installed light's wires, and 1 hot (black) wire bound to another wire in the lamp.

There is only one switch that controls this light. The previous installation works properly, in terms of turning the light on and off. After pulling the switch out, it would appear there is a hot (black) and a neutral (white) attached to this switch.

With the switch in the Off position, the light turns off and my no contact voltage meter reads both the group of 3 black wires, and the single black wire as hot. With the switch in the On position, the light turns on, the group of 3 reads as having power, while the lone black wire has no power.

How should I attach my new light?

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Best Answer

The way you describe it, the receptacle has:

  • one hot and one neutral (single wire) when switch is on
  • two hot (single and triple) when switch is off

That would be functional (as in the light would turn on and off correctly), but dangerous (all the time) by modern standards.

The light would go between the three black wires and the single black wire. (two hots: no current, light's off) (one hot, one neutral: current, light's on)

It is possible there simply was a miswire at some point between neutral and hot.

Given the current state, if the ceiling light is high enough to not be a shocking hazard and you don't feel like fixing it all, all I can offer is:

Turn off the main breaker at the panel? That would turn off electricity to the whole house/unit. Use your cell phone flashlight to connect the ceiling light (or sunlight).

The only alternative is to identify where the miswire is and bring it all up to code, but that would be more effort.