Electrical – Only 2 wires! – Replacing old 240v double pole t-stat with new digital double pole

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I'm replacing a old Eaton M402 mechanical 2-pole 240v thermostat with a Cadet TH114A-240D-B double pole, 240v DIGITAL tstat.

In the junction box, I only have 2 conductors plus ground. I was expecting 4 conductors. See attached picture for how the M402 is currently wired, note that the black and red wires on the M402 are connected to each other:

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Here is my double pole breaker (off):
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The new Cadet TH114A-240D-B looks like this:
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So the wiring for the new T-stat looks much different than the original. Can you help me understand what I need to do? I saw somewhere that in order to get a digital double pole tstat working I need 4 wires?…

The voltage at the electric baseboard is reading 240v.

Thanks,

Ben

Best Answer

You can't get there from here

That thermostat simply will not work in that location. The wiring to that thermostat is wired as a switch loop.

This is the 240V version of "no neutral wire in the switch box, so no smart switch".

Back to the store it goes. They probably get 30% of them back this way.

Go 24V system

Fuel furnace thermostats run on 24 volt DC low voltage. Your best option is to install the ~$25 worth of parts needed to convert this to a 24V thermostat system. Go back to the heater (there's usually plenty of room in there) and fit a 240V-24V transformer and 24V-240V contactor. Have the contactor switch current to the heater (preferably both legs).

On the 24V transformer, you define the two terminals as R and C. The ideal color for C is blue, so get a multi-color pack of electrical tape to make this clear to yourself and the next guy. R is ideally red.

On the contactor coil, one terminal is C and the other one is W (ideally white).

On the cable to the thermostat, those are R and W. Don't use the ground wire.

So now you just connect them up: R to R, W to W etc. You'll need a jumper wire from thermostat C to contactor C.

At this point, it should work with the old thermostat, because the old thermostat is dumb, and doesn't care if it's switching 12A@240V or 0.05A@24V.

Now you can change it to a "smart thermostat" of the 24V persuasion, which is a huge variety including the Nest. I recommend one that is capable of functioning without a C-wire. If the contactor doesn't flow enough current for that to work, the factory can instruct you how to connect a special resistor module in the heater between W and C.