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I want to set up two strips of led lights in a room with each having their own power supply. However, the problem arises of keeping them in sync in lighting modes other than static.
Info: 5050 RGB, 4 wires, one 12V 10A power supply, one 12V 6A power supply, already have controller and an amplifier.
Would connecting the strips as shown below work, and will they stay in sync?
You won't be able to shock yourself with 12v, but you can shock yourself with whatever power supply you find that'll do 5A at 12v. Assuming you'll only use one strip at 6a just grab a laptop power supply (I'd recommend this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812203037) - that way you really don't need to worry about whatever engineering decisions went into building that laptop power supply.
If you cleanly splice the wires, you won't have any issues. Solder them correctly, twisting them to have a mechanical connection and soldering to have an electrical connection.. then heat shrink it.
The LEDs will not give off enough heat to catch on fire or burn your bed, ever.
This project could easily be the fusion of 2 well engineered products to do something cool without any risks! Have fun!
Using these RGB as a base example
These strips indeed usually come in lengths of 5 meters but you find suppliers that will give you 10/15/20 metres options also. Most only provide 5 meters because of the power they need to power up properly. So they try and sell you a cheap 12volt apadter used for each 5M strips but also the guys who sell them up to 20Metres does not mean you can use the entire length because the PCB traces might burn out caused by overloading them. You need to check with the seller how you can use them. The market is flooded with various makes and knock offs- so make sure you can get the specifications.
A lot of LED 5050 or 3258 each have different power ratings and usually come in 150 or 300 per 5 meters (30 / 60 per meter)
From the example provided earlier I will use single colour LED. The 5 meter white strip uses 24 Watts - That is 2A X 12 = 24WATTS - So using any 12v power supply with at least 2A will power that single 5 meter strip at 100%
I have similar strip and I joined them with a soldering iron to make a 10 meter strip and it works fine. I powered them up for 10 minutes and felt if the PCB tracks, close to the power supply because that is were the highest power draw will be, checked if they were getting warm/hot. They were cold so I left them for another 30 minutes and still cold, so they could handle the extra power. To calculate the MAX rating of the PCB track you would need to know the material, PCB thickness and width (Which nobody supplies). Also there is no equipment to test that either.
So instead of buying several small 12V adapters I go to the next best thing. A computer power supply!
You can get really cheap ones like 450Watt and they can power up tens of strips with clean 12volt power, with short circuit protection and overload protection. This is a DIY Q&A so there needs to be DIY involved! Using a Computer PSU you are only interested in the yellow and black wires. The rest you can cut away/discard.
Here is a diagram showing the pinout computer PSU connectors.
You need to realize you cannot just join all the yellows and use it as one. Each yellow wire is a PHASE and each phase has a maximum amperage rating. All the phases give the power supply its maximum peak rating.
As long as the combined amperage/wattage does not exceed that written on the label of the PSU you will be OK to combine many LED strips to a single phase. But each 5 Meter LED strip will need to be powered individually to be safe. So you need to pull wire alongside all your led strips if you're going to go more than 10M :(
OK - Fine it seems too much faffing around with the computer PSU- but I would like you to know that paying extortionate prices for 12volt power adapters is not neccessary. LED's are not special- they do not need special 100pound adapters. Just shop around for big wattage 12volt supplies. You should find good prices.
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Just match up the pads, join them like that or use some cable. Does not matter.
Unfortunately RGB LEDS use three 12volt channels with a controller that outputs a variation of voltages on each channel to get the LED to its desired colour. The controllers output a PWM signal and can only handle the maximum watts it is rated for. the only suggestion is to buy 4 of the exact same model that use infra-red remote. Put them side by side so that the remote will control all of them at the same time and pull your cables to the desired locations. Some of these controllers can store pre set colours so that could be an advantage.
But you can also buy a repeater now a days from China. They are basically another micro controller that sense the PWN signal and outputs the same but with the ability to power more strips.
-EDIT Nov/2014 There are allot more RGB amplifiers / repeaters on the market now and cost between 5-15USD. Search on eBay for local seller.
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OK, so, you'll need exactly one controller, and one or more amplifiers depending on how fancy you want to get. You don't show any of that on your drawing.
The Controller takes 12VDC power and outputs R,G,B and Common. This can be both the signal driving any number of amplifiers, or the power driving a limited number of LED strips.
The important component is the amplifier. It inputs two things: a power input of 12V in large amounts; and a signal input consisting of R,G,B and C (common) from a controller. The signal input is simply the RGBC output of the controller. The amplifier outputs LED drive output consisting of R, G, B and C (common). This can feed one or several LED strings, limited by the rating of the power supply and the amplifier.
The minimum configuration
Install the controller just past the power supply on the lower right. The controller will directly drive the bottom-edge LED string.
At the place you mark "connector", the botton LED strip will be totally severed from the other LED strips. However, a 4-wire (RGBC) cable will continue onward from the end of this LED strip, and it will go to the amplifier. These can be very small wires, they carry virtually no current.
The top center power supply will be replaced by a power supply and an amplifier. The power supply output goes to the amplifier power input. The signal input comes from the 4-wire cable from the bottom-edge strip. The amplifier's RGBC output will then drive both LED strips along the top, left and right.