Electrical – What cable size do I need to feed a 100 amp sub panel that is 550 ft

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I'm building a barn that is 550' away from my house and need to power it. I would like to have 100 amp service from my main house board (200 amp). My house is fed with the typical 2 conductors. I am in Ontario, Canada.

I would like to stick the cable in the ground and use some sort of conduit like 2" likely 2 1/2" PVC shed 80 pipe if this is cheaper than an armoured cable.

What I actually Ended Up Doing The local (Rockwood, Ontario Canada) inspector gave me two options. 1) pull 300 MCM or 2) parallel 3/0 Aluminum 3 conductors director bury, both needed a ground back to the main panel (sized to cable).
So……. Based on that I took Option 2, Cost of $3,800 for cable and ground + $1000 for Big-O (two runs) turns out my barn when finally located was 650ft, location was selected while I was in the EU. I had to put the cable inside Big-O to protect it because I didn't want to put 6-4" of clear sand below and above the cable.

What I learned My Electrician is at the mercy of the local inspector. They books all said I need to run single pull of 3/0 or at worst 4/0 but, they can't make a decision because the inspector as the say. Simplest means is to get the inspector out and get him to bless the project.

No One would do the Transformer Option, and the Inspector wouldn't approve it. My local Utility provider came up with a plan for about $25K to get me 600 amp service and back feed the house. needing 4 poles, high side cabling, a transformer, and easement and a tone of work by me along with a pad and remote meter. So that went nowhere.

Best Answer

This application has "transformers" written all over it. A big factor in AC vs DC power (Tesla vs Edison) being the ability to haul it long distances. And this right here is where that comes into play.

In every single scenario, your barn needs its own earth grounding system.

Plan 1: Conventional sub-panel (as discussed elsewhere)

Wire cost: $4000. (about a 25% margin over the best prices I can find).

That plan only makes sense if money is no object and the goal is to stay "DIY friendly". But it still won't be, because of the miserable pulls with huge wire (unless you upsize conduit to about 4", not least, because the bends are wider radius.) The only benefit to all this is avoiding transformers. Since this scenario is well covered by other answers, I'll won't elaborate.

Plan 2: Use a transformer to make the barn a main panel.

Wire cost: $2000. Transformer cost: $900

You only need 2 of the huge 350kcmil wires. You feed them with 240V and they go to the primary side of a 25kva transformer. The transformer removes the need to run a "ground" and "neutral" wire (but the primary and secondary sides are different). Your barn is now a main panel. L1, neutral and L2 come off the secondary of the transformer. The transformer and the barn panel are grounded to the barn's grounding system.

You may be able to reduce the size of the wires somewhat, because the transformer has "taps" to compensate for voltage drop.

Plan 3: Also pump up the voltage for the long run.

Wire cost: $300. Really. Transformer cost: $1800

This takes two 4-AWG (maybe 6) AL wires. Instead of one 25KVA transformer, you get two -- with a higher voltage primary, within the rating of the cable you plan to run. So if the cable rating is 600V (most likely), get 480, 575 or 600V transformers (those last two are a thing in Canada). These voltages are serious, but still within the range of common panels and wire. Call an electrician for the final review, megging and hookup of the higher voltage stuff.

You backfeed the secondary of one transformer with 240V from your panel. The primary feeds your long conduit run to the other transformer's primary, which knocks it down to 240V on the secondary. As above, the barn panel is a main panel which gets L1, neutral and L2 from its transformer, and ground from the barn's grounding system.

Plan 4: Tie into the high voltage supply

Wire and transformer cost: ???? depending on voltage rating and delivery.

The power company transports power across farmland at a much higher voltage like 600V or 2400V, and then have a transformer at your house to knock it down to 240/120V. I imagine you've already talked to the power company and asked them the cost of wheeling their high-voltage to your barn and provisioning their transformer and meter, and didn't care for the answer.

I am saying, see if it is feasible to buy their power on the high side of their transformer, and take responsibility for the pole line, underground, transformer etc. It's sorta like "rent the cable modem or buy one". Used transformers can be had. Of course touching their high-voltage is electrician territory, but you can do all the grunt work, so he megs a few things out, connects 2 wires and throws the switch. There's no reason to pay an electrician to trench conduit or punch holes in walls.