Electrical – What’s the proper procedure for replacing ungrounded circuits

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I have a house that has several ungrounded circuits that uses the older 2 wire romex (pvc insulation, black woven jacket).

I'd love to have AFCI protected circuits for the bedrooms, and grounded outlets for some other rooms, but I don't want to have somebody rip the old cable that runs horizontally between the outlet boxes (also don't want to attempt that myself).

Would this be a proper procedure for replacing ungrounded circuits?
I was thinking something like:

  • Disconnect old circuit
  • Take out old boxes, put bigger rework boxes in (current boxes are small)
  • Drill new hole up from basement under boxes
  • Fish wire up, secure in box with tab/clamp and with staple in basement*
  • Connect each outlet run for the room together with a junction box*
  • Run to panel*

*Assuming proper support according to 334.30

I also had a question with regards to NEC 334.30(B)(2):

334.30 Securing and Supporting Nonmetallic-sheathed cable shall be supported and secured by staples, cable ties, straps, hangers, or
similar fittings designed and installed so as not to damage the cable,
at intervals not exceeding 1.4 m (4 1⁄2 ft) and within 300 mm (12 in.)
of every outlet box. junction box, cabinet, or fitting. Flat cables
shall not be stapled on edge. Sections of cable protected from
physical damage by raceway shall not be required to be secured within
the raceway.

(A) Horizontal Runs Through Holes and Notches. In other than
vertical runs, cables installed in accordance with 300.4 shall be
considered to be supported and secured where such support does not
exceed 1.4-m (4 1⁄2-ft) intervals and the nonmetallic-sheathed cable
is securely fastened in place by an approved means within 300 mm (12
in.) of each box, cabinet, conduit body, or other nonmetallicsheathed
cable termination.

FPN: See 314.17(C) for support where nonmetallic boxes are used

(B) Unsupported Cables. Nonmetallic-sheathed cable shall be permitted to be unsupported where the cable:

(1) Is fished between access points through concealed spaces in finished
buildings or structures and supporting is impracticable.

(2) Is not more than 1.4 m (4 1 ⁄2 ft) from the last point of cable
support to the point of connection to a luminaire or other piece of
electrical equipment and the cable and point of connection are within
an accessible ceiling

  1. Does 334.30(B) allow for this type of installation?
  2. Would 334.30(B) allow for a fished dropwire from an attic, with an unsupported vertical "run" of more than 4.5 feet down to an outlet box?

Best Answer

Before going through all that I'd check:

  1. If the existing metal boxes are already grounded (See How should I connect to a short ground wire in a metal box? and maybe Should old knob and tube wiring be replaced? )
  2. If the old cables will come out cleanly from below. Fish a string as you yank out the old cable.

Note:

  1. The NEC's unsupported rule does not apply inside walls. You get a free pass on that one.
  2. You can put an AFCI breaker on the two wire circuits, no problem.
  3. You can put a three prong GFCI on the two wire circuits, as long as they are labeled as such.
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