Our fireplace is about 7 years old and for the past couple of years, only the last opening in the burner has worked. I see the pipe's threading shortly where it comes out of the wall in the firepit, but when I try to turn the pipe with a wrench, the whole pipe, including the pipe the burner is connected to, turns. Any advice on replacing this pipe? And where I could even purchase a burner like this? Thought I would ask here before calling a chimney sweep.
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I sold venting pipe professionally for 4 years, and have experience designing a variety of systems.
Just a few notes: 1. Always check your clearances to combustible materials. Zero-clearance fireplaces are only zero clearance to certain materials, like masonry, etc. Make sure you take care when addressing this.
Different stoves have different pipe diameters. If you're still debating which model to get, you could save yourself some money by going with 6" diameter versus 8", as the larger it is the more expensive.
Old masonry chimneys are dangerous and should be inspected, even if using a liner.
Onto the parts! Since you are going to be dealing with a freestanding stove as well as a chimney liner, you're likely going to need an adapter as you enter the masonry.
When you come off of your stove with the flue pipe, you would want double-walled black stovepipe. This has a twist-lock connection that will go on your stoves outlet, either top or rear vented. It is more expensive than single-walled pipe, has less clearance requirement of 8 inches versus (18-inch clearance of single-wall) but has longer life, and isn't burning hot to the touch.
Your question about bending the pipe: Definitely do not ever physically bend a pipe to create a curve, etc. Rather, use an angled piece, then a straight, and then another angled piece to complete the connection. This stove-pipe comes with "elbows" at various angles. 45/90 degree are the most common, so you should have no issue angling the pipe to penetrate the masonry at 90 degrees.
The easiest way to complete your system would be to adapt the standard stove-pipe to a masonry liner. For a normal chimney-pipe to masonry-liner system, you will need a few pieces that aren't "standard" on most installations.
Masonry Thimble: This item installs into the 6-8" diameter hole you drill in your masonry chimney. It allows a length of straight pipe to pass through your masonry wall, into the chimney, and connect to the flexible stainless chimney liner. Stove-pipe to Liner Adapter: This piece physically adapts the rigid interior stove pipe to flexible liner.
You asked if the chimney can be a fire-hazard even with a liner; The short answer is yes. The reason being that if there is not enough clearance from the edge of the chimney interior to the outside edge of the chimney liner pipe; heat can be transferred to the brick, which can then catch wood aflame. If you have proper clearance, no fires should occur from the liner/masonry portion.
The only other fire-hazard that should exist is the chimney-cap itself. Make sure that the termination (last pieces) are done correctly. Is there a masonry chimney penetrating above the roofline a good bit? If so, you have it easy and can purchase a Turbo cap with a "spark arrestor" screen.. The cap spins as the heat exhausts out, cooling it, and the screen catches any flaming embers or sparks that might still exist from the burning wood.
Regarding your "Chimneys on exterior cause poor air flow" Statement: From my experience that is mostly false. Only in situations where there are EXTREME weather conditions does this ever occur. The reason this is never a problem with correct installations is that the Class A pipe required for exterior installations is either double wall or triple wall insulated. There are numerous layers of insulation that keep the flue gasses piping hot (ha) until they exit the chimney cap. Please keep in mind when designing a chimney system you want to achieve this: Most air flow. Least bends. Shortest run.
Numerous elbows/Angles cause the exhaust to cool. A rule of thumb is no more than 3 90 degree turns total from stove to cap.
I hope this helps!
It's difficult to assess the degree of rust, especially in the pipe feeding into the floor of the firebox. Natural gas can have a certain amount of moisture in it, which may be contributing to (causing) the rusting. If this is the main source of moisture it would be more pronounced on any vertical pipe run.
I would suggest you remove as much of the visible rust as possible. This will help indicate how much the vertical run might have. Also check that portion of the pipe that is exposed below the floor (you indicate there's a shut-off valve beneath).
If there's more rust than what a wire brush can remove in a few (several) swipes then a plumber should be called. Otherwise, if the rust can be quickly removed, a mixture of 1 part dish detergent + 1 part water sprayed on the entire exposed pipe (while gas is on) will reveal leaks via ensuing bubbling. It's best if one person turns on valve while another sprays pipe assembly.
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