LED lighting question

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I have a chandelier that takes 5 25w candelabra based bulbs. It does not put out enough lumens based on using incandescent bulbs. I figured I would then purchase LEDs that use much less wattage but put out a lot more lumens. I bought two different brands to compare the light quality/ color. I like a bulb that is soft white in the 3000k region and not another brand that was at 2700k. My problem arises that when I install the 3000k bulbs only 3 sockets work. I can install an incandescent in the other two and they work fine. It's not the bulbs I've rotated and it's always the same 2 sockets. When trying the 2700k bulbs if I install all 5 they barely turn on at all. Incredibly dim, if I remove one, and it doesn't matter which the remaining 4 come on at full brightness. I am currently running the 4 2700k with a 25w incandescent and not a fan of the warm color. Is there any way to get all 5 LEDs working?

Thanks

Scott

Best Answer

It sounds like the line voltage is low. I have had this issue before with some cheaper and counterfeit bulbs from China. Check your line voltage at the socket (the thing the bulb screws into) and see how much of a drop it has from, say, a nearby outlet. You can then get a general idea of how much voltage drop the 4 LED bulbs are causing in total. What happens is that the little inverter type power supply board in the LED is really fussy in the cheapies, and if the voltage at the junction box is already low (old house, end of a trunk , other loads in line, etc.), the voltage is too low to run five, but just enough to run 4. you can sometimes see this if you take a high frame rate HD video (70fps and higher) of 1 led bulb installed, and then with 1 less than the number that is stops working at (5 in your case, so 4 for you). Then playback the videos on a player at slow speed. You will see a flicker with 4, but no flicker with just 1. T322his is due to the driver voltage being just sufficient with 4 lights, but too low with 5.

If you have a dimmer, try all 5 without the dimmer. If that works, you either need a magnetic driver type dimmer or you have non dimmable bulbs. If it doesn't work, your line voltage is too low and it simply won't work. And remember, this is all assuming you have checked for shorts, bridging, etc in the fixture, wiring and sockets.