I was considering buying a cheap mini-split AC unit to cool a small room (10ftx10ft) over the summer now that we spend more time working from home. There are several units on the market. However I'd like to mount the two parts of the system pretty much back to back, one on the outside wall, the other on the corresponding inside wall, about 8-10 inch apart (I just have to check how thick is the stucco etc). However I read there is a 10ft minimum distance between the two units, and this would complicate the job a whole lot. What is the reason for a minimum distance? Too much final pressure of the pre-charged gas comes to mind perhaps?
Minimum length of mini-split AC line
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The point of a super insulated home or a Passive house is that they rely on the body heat of the occupants plus the heat from the various gadgets in the home to keep them warm, with the insulation slowing the heat loss. A home built to Passive house standard will usually be fitted with hydronic heating (probably as the new owners are not sure that it will do what it says on the tin.) And the heating may never be used. Of the 37, 000 Passive houses in the world, 20, 000 or so are in Germany where 92% of the owners are satisfied with their economy. A true Passive house is almost air tight, with a heat recovery ventilation system, fitted with a in duct heating coil to warm the incoming cold winter air, should it be 3.5C or more lower than the room temperature. You can see from the above that having a large hole in a wall, albeit sealed with a steel sheet, where a vast amount of heat can escape will defeat the whole point of carefully installed insulation.
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Chlorine & Copper
You will have to keep your chlorine and acidity levels in constant harmony, otherwise the acidity will corrode and pit your copper tubing. Using aluminum would be exponentially worse. It the cooler your pool water gets, the worse effects it would also have on the copper. You can find good information from the EPA.
BTU's
A BTU is a British Thermal Unit. It takes one BTU to increase the temperature of one pound of water by one degree Farenheit. The average swimming pool is 20' x 30' x 5'. That would mean that the average swimming pool is about 22,500 gallons of water. Since one gallon of water weighs 8.34 lbs., the water in an average sized pool would weigh 187,650.
That means it would take 187,650 BTU's to increase that pool temperature by one degree. Since you would only have about 10% of that amount of BTU's required - it is very likely that the pool would simply absorb and disperse the heat transferred from your residence and never actually raise the temperature of the pool. Gullberg & Jansson has some great information on their website about heating pools.
Refrigerant and Line Set
In general it would take about 0.6 oz of refrigerant for each foot of copper tubing above 15'. Different manufacturers have different specifications of course. Considering it is a window unit, it would already have less refrigerant than say, a mini split unit.
The average 1.5 ton, or 18,000 BTU, mini split unit take about 3-4 lbs. of refrigerant and usually have about 15' of line set available 'in the box.' Depending on how long your copper tubing would be, you could be seeing so much heat loss just within the copper tubing itself, it would never "make it" to the pool. Plus, all of the possible extra refrigerant would be so hard on a compressor that small, compressor failure would always be right around the corner. Some good information can be found at ACHR News.
Legal Activity
In order to 'work' with Refrigerant, in fact, even buy (most) of it, you have to be EPA Section 608 Certified. There are 4 types of certification. There is Type I, Type II, Type III, and Universal. There is also EPA Section 609, but that is for motor vehicles. Without certification, you run the risk of EPA prosecution. And before you think that you will never get caught, there is a reward for turning people in. Information can be found at the EPA website.
Tools You Need
- Recovery Machine
- Recovery Tank
- Vacuum Pump
- Manifold Gauges
- Low-Loss Fittings
- MAPP or Oxy/Acetylene Torch Kit
- Pipe Cutter
- Pipe Reamer
- Sand Paper/Emery Cloth
- Silver or Silver Phosphate Brazing Rods
- General Mechanics Tools
- Possible a Bucket of Ice and/or Bucket of Warm Water
- Various Other Tools Depending on the Task at Hand
As you can see, there is a lot of specific tools and machines that you need to perform the job, not only legally, but safely. They are also very expensive to the average person. It is not uncommon for a vacuum pump to cost between $150 - $500. You can double and triple that cost for a Recovery Machine. There is a reason that most technicians work for a company that provides all of the tools required. It is hard to start off in the industry self-employed when you require certifications and tools that all cost money.
Conclusion
I would find a local HVAC/R Technician and run the idea across him. Ask him to come out and see what the job would entail. Ask him for advice. Ask him for a material cost and/or a list of what it would take to get the job done. Remember, this is only estimate stuff - because he may just tell you it isn't worth it, isn't possible with the equipment provided, or would be much more hassle than the intended benefit.
You could hire me to do it! But that would cost you a plane ticket, a case of beer, and a good home cooked meal before I even consider it.
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The manual for the Pioneer mini split system I'm installing this weekend says the unit is pre-charged for 16 foot lines. For distances less than 25 feet the manual says no change to the refrigerant charge is needed. Nowhere that I can find does it say the pipes have a minimum length.
Maybe see if the installation manuals are available on the Internet for the unit you intend to purchase. They should have similar guidelines.