For Nest Thermostat 3, I am trying to identify a common wire on my old HVAC.
The diagram can be found on the link below:
Need to identify a common wire on the old HVAC
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Wiring Diagrams
Locate the schematic
In most cases, a wiring diagram can be located inside the HVAC unit. Typically, it will be on the inside of the access cover.
Find the transformer on the schematic
Once you've located the diagram, you'll want to look for this symbol.
Or the actual text that says "Transformer", which may be labeling a crudely drawn transformer, or simply a rectangle.
Primary or secondary?
After finding the transformer in the diagram, you'll have to determine which wires are connected to the primary coil, and which are connected to the secondary coil. Check the diagram for a key, which will give you a hint. On some diagrams a thicker (bold) line denotes line voltage wiring, while a thinner line represents low voltage wiring. Others may list the voltage and frequency on each side of the transformer.
Trace the wires
Now that you know where the transformer is on the diagram, and which side is the secondary. The next step is to follow the lines, and see where they go.
In this example diagram, you can see that one leg of the secondary connects to the R terminal on the control board, and the other leg connects to the C terminal. In this example there's actually a C terminal present, but that will not always be the case (especially in old models). However, even if there isn't a dedicated C terminal, that doesn't change what the C wire is. Which is simply the other side of the secondary coil.
In Real Life
Now that you've located the transformer in the diagram, or maybe you don't have a diagram. Either way, you'll have to locate the actual transformer inside the HVAC unit. You'll be looking for something that looks similar to this...
Honeywell 24V AT72D Transformer
An action shot of the actual transformer in my furnace
Primary or secondary?
Once again, you'll have to determine which is the primary wiring and which is the secondary. If you had a wiring diagram with the wire colors labeled, this is simple. If you don't, you'll have to figure it out.
Wire color
In the US, typically the ungrounded (hot) conductor will be black, and the grounded (neutral) conductor will be white. It's common for this color code to follow through to the primary side of the transformer, so a set of black and white wires is likely the primary side. The secondary could be any color, though commonly the R wire will be red.
Wire size
You may also be able to determine which is which, based on the size of the wires connected. The primary wires will typically be either 12 AWG or 14 AWG, whereas the secondary may be smaller.
Measure.
If all else fails, pull out your voltage meter an measure. The primary side will be line voltage, and the secondary will be low voltage (commonly around 24V).
Trace the wires
Now that you know which wires are connected to the secondary coil, simply follow them to their termination. One of the wires will be connected to the R terminal, the other may or may not be connected to a terminal that is labeled. But even if it's not labeled, it's still C.
Transformer connected to two wire, heat only thermostat.
Transformer connected to three wire, heat only, WiFi thermostat.
For more information on transformers and C wires, please see More than you've ever wanted to know about the C wire
This is indeed the standard R/W setup for a heat-only system. You have it correct that you can attach the blue wire to the C terminal on the board and then use it as a C wire for your new thermostat.
If you want to make sure -- you can use a voltmeter to measure 24VAC between R and the Ground terminal between the fuse and the 6 pin connector.
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Best Answer
Whenever a furnace has a 24V low voltage transformer, the two 24V terminals are R and C.
If you can't find any other way to do it, pick one of these two low-voltage terminals to use for C.
Worst case, you picked R by mistake, and the thermostat will see 0 volts between R and C, since you are actually bringing it R and R. In that case, use the other transformer terminal.
On your furnace, the low voltage transformer is in the smaller schematic to the middle left. Within that drawing, it shows the transformer in the middle. The R wire snakes through a limit switch to the thermostat connection terminal block on the lower left. Your furnace does not bring C out to that terminal block. You'll have to "go get it".