Code Compliance – Why a Single Pole Dual Smart Switch is Hard to Find

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I've been looking for ages for a smart switch to replace an analog single pole dual switch like this.

Everything I am able to find on Amazon, or really anywhere, is cheap foreign-made and not UL or ETL listed, e.g. this or this.

This one actually claims to be ETL certified, but I bought it and it has no such marking and have not yet installed it.

But I'm just wondering if there is some fundamental issue that prevents single-pole dual smart switches from being certified? GE, Leviton, etc. make tons of smart switches but no dual ones. With there being ZERO reputable manufacturers making these, but several shady ones doing so, one has to wonder why?

Note I may just wind up getting a dual Z-wave relay and keep the switch analog, but it's not my top choice as the box is pretty cramped as it is.

Update:
Well I found at least this one that's cETL certified. That's progress I guess.

Update 2:
Wait a tick. Could this actually be what I've been seeking? Z-Wave. A dimmer and a separate on/off in one gang.

Update 3:
The Zooz dual switch arrived yesterday and indeed seems to do the trick! It has US and Canada ETL cert and looks and feels like a legitimate switch unlike the plastic garbage out there.

The dimmer part paired with my ADT Control system despite ADT not being listed as a compatible. The "relay" (for the fan) didn't pair but I assume that is because of the hub; they note that the Smartthings hub needs a special update so I'm sure it's just a software issue. It also doesn't bother me that much since turning off the lights from bed is more important than the fan which I have on 99% of the time.

One thing I don't like about it is that it doesn't have screw-in wire terminals but rather has stranded wires that come out the back that you have to pigtail to wires in the box.

But overall I'm glad to see at least one product that sortof fits the bill and hope this is a sign of things to come.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

Best Answer

I'd use Insteon for this job

The type of control flexibility you want with multiple controlled devices at a single wallstation isn't really addressed by "smart switches" per se, as the programming becomes involved enough that a single, standalone "smart" wallbox control with that functionality is no longer worthwhile. Instead, what you get into at that level are systems of lighting control, designed for complex situations where entire sets of lights can be controlled with a single button. While there are a variety of products that can handle the duty, most require special low-voltage control wires from the wallstations to a central control unit, which rules them out in a retrofit like this. However, the Insteon system uses a mix of power-line and wireless communications that lends itself well to retrofits, and also has a FanLinc module available for precisely the job you are after; namely, controlling a fan and its associated lights (or a different set of lights) simultaneously.

In this situation, I'd use an Insteon keypad module connected to always-hot and neutral at the wallbox, while bringing that same always-hot and neutral up to the fan. At the fan, a FanLinc module is wired, much the same way you'd do with any other fan remote receiver; this gives you full dimming control over the connected lights, as well as multi-speed control of the fan. You can also replace the existing wallbox dimmer with an Insteon dimmer and make all the lights in the room "talk", allowing for one-button scene control of both light sets from the same keypad that handles the fan. Of course, all the Insteon gear is properly listed and labeled -- Insteon was in the "smart" game well before all the consumer-gadget vendors jumped on the bandwagon.