Use redundant/spare AGM batteries for

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In my off-grid cabin I currently have a single 258 Ah (C24) Concorde PVX-2580L battery, with a 150 Ah spare (and generator) for backup situations where the main runs flat.

As I frequently see the voltage drop below 12.1V (i.e. the 50% mark) in the winter time, I have bought a pair of 2580's to double my available energy. These are of a different age and series than the one I currently have, and as one is not supposed to mix different AGM batteries on the same circuit, I am now exploring how I can make good use of them.

One thing I just came across is DC-DC chargers, such as this one from Victron. That would allow me for 120$ to charge a battery using the new batteries. That would effectively create a new circuit, so it would easily be under-utilized, if I didn't use that circuit much. I would also need to find space for the behemoth battery the 2580 is 🙂

Any other input on how I could make good use of the redundant batteries?

Best Answer

I would not charge a battery from other batteries; that is insane because it creates conversion losses for no good reason.

However, when one battery is charging, it is fine to tap that energy to charge another battery, using any of a variety of methods. Like any charging, this should be a proper charge controller, not just a diode array.

You don't want to be in a situation of leaving a battery partially discharged for any longer than necessary, because that ages a lead-acid battery.

Lead-acid batteries are a perishable asset

A lot of people, especially who live out in the country and have barn space, don't throw stuff out. They keep it around forever, on the logic that it "saves having to buy it again". Do not do that with lead-acid batteries. A lead-acid battery dumped in the back of the barn for 5 years will be dead as a stone when you go to use it.

Your only options for "surplus" batteries which are still working is a) sell it promptly to someone who can put it to work, or b) put it to work yourself.

So either get rid of it right now... or modify your system to make use of its capacity on a daily basis. Every battery is an addition, because discharge wears lead-acid batteries, and the rate of wear is an exponential function of discharge depth. Draining 2 batteries to 55% full is much worse for total-cost-of-ownership than draining 3 batteries to 70% full.

"Spare for when one runs flat" is also a fail

Similarly, the idea of running one battery pack dead, then switching to the next pack, is a bankrupt idea as far as total cost of ownership. Running a lead-acid pack to failure is absolutely brutal on service life of the battery. A car starting battery is destroyed by 5-10 dips to dead. A battery specifically for solar is destroyed by some dozens of such dips, and worn/damaged/capacity reduced by every single dip.

Again, for best use of the batteries, you want to pull them down as evenly as is practicable. 80-100% won't matter, so pull A to 80%, then B to 80%, then C to 80%, then A to 70%, B to 70%, C to 70%, etc.

Even better, have a smart battery merger/controller that blends all packs together, drawing them down equally; however this requires some intelligence - diodes alone are not enough. (Also diodes take a bare minimum 0.2V drop and most diodes are more like 0.8% -- that's 2-6% of total battery capacity being wasted in heating up diodes.) A manual string of switches (B on, A off) would be more efficient.

Physical topology is also a consideration

If your house is spread out, and 60% of your load is in one place, 25% in another place and 15% in another place... it may be better to distribute your packs around the house so that the batteries are near the loads, rather than "wheeling" (hauling) 12V over long distances. Voltage drop bites 12V very hard: with only 1/10 the voltage of 120V, it has 10x the voltage drop, which means 100x the power drop. You can end up losing a significant fraction of battery capacity to wiring losses, unless you're up on the ought-sizes of wire.