Wiring – New light fitting coming on with wrong switches

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I've replaced several lights in my house no problem, house is 70's build old wiring etc

My kitchen light had an old tube light that was on the way out so I bought an LED replacement.

When coming to wire it in there were 3 grey cables in the ceiling with the 3 earth's and 3 red wires twisted together. Then the black wires were two into the neutral and one into the live.

I copied this over to the new light and it doesn't come on at all.

But if I use only two of the wires it comes on if any other light on the downstairs circuit is turned on but its own switch has no effect?

I tried swapping the wires around the other way but that means the light is just permanently on and the other downstairs lights don't work. So leads me to believe the 3rd one I'm not using is the switched wire but if that's one the live side it just trips it out, on the other side it does nothing 🤦

Any ideas where I've gone wrong as I took a picture of the old light wiring before I took it off and it and just copied it which hasn't been a problem for me in the past, I can understand if I got them mixed up but it doesn't even work with other combinations it either doesn't work at all or stays on permanently etc
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That's the old wiring, the new one Is just a block with live and neutral

Best Answer

The solution was that the wires were connected correctly but somehow the switch had stopped working during me changing the light fitting, I tested all the wires and the switched wires were showing continuity constantly despite the switch being off.

I tried the switch itself directly with no wires to check it was definitely the switch and it was, switch replaced and all worked fine.

When I first started I thought it seems like the switch wasn't working but I ruled that out in my head as it worked fine with the old light so not exactly sure what the reason for it failing was or just coincidence, but it was a cheap fix in the end.