Learn English – Difference between “with” and “of”
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S is the set of 2 elements.
S is the set with 2 elements.
Is there any difference between them?
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These sentences are a little confusing, because they seem to be very technical. A set containing elements is usually only used when describing things mathematically - a set of prime numbers, for instance. Technical fields will often have specific grammar expectations that may be unique, so it is important to provide context.
In terms of English language usage, "of" means the things that make up the set, while "with" means things that are contained within the set. "Of" is the entire set, while "with" may be part of the set.
For instance, let's say that I have a basket containing puppies.
If I describe it as "a basket of puppies", you could infer that the only thing in the basket is puppies. The basket might contain other objects like a blanket or a chew toy, but as far as the speaker is concerned the only significant objects in the basket are the puppies.
If I describe it as "a basket with puppies", there is a possibility that the basket contains other important things that are being overlooked. For instance, there could also be a sleeping cat.
If I hand my friend a basket with puppies (and also a cat), and she has an allergic reaction to the cat, I can claim to have been truthful. If I tell her it is a basket of puppies and don't mention the cat, she can claim I misled her.
They are different words with different meanings, except in colloquial language (slang), where they are often used interchangeably.
1) Usage of 'them': it's the accusative form of 'they' (3rd person plural) so use it in sentences where a 3rd party (someone/some people separate to 'they') is doing an action to 'they'.
Usage of 'these'/'those': they are demonstrative pronouns - the plurals of 'this' and 'that' - so use them to demonstrate something. 'These' is used for items that are in some way closer, more related, or in another way are the more important items of a sentence.
2) Examples of 'them': "John was asked what he thought of them."; "After I gave them a detention, I told them that they weren't making enough effort."
Examples of 'these'/'those': "Why are you trying those shoes on? These ones are much cheaper."; "Those people are silly, these are clever."
Hope this is clear enough and helps! If it does, an upvote and/or accept wouldn't go amiss!
"Fine with me" and "fine by me" do indeed mean the same thing. As Max said, they are both idioms. My sense is that the first version is better established and the second is a little more informal, although neither is really very formal.
Interestingly, "I am fine with it" also means the same thing.
Best Answer
These sentences are a little confusing, because they seem to be very technical. A set containing elements is usually only used when describing things mathematically - a set of prime numbers, for instance. Technical fields will often have specific grammar expectations that may be unique, so it is important to provide context.
In terms of English language usage, "of" means the things that make up the set, while "with" means things that are contained within the set. "Of" is the entire set, while "with" may be part of the set.
For instance, let's say that I have a basket containing puppies.
If I describe it as "a basket of puppies", you could infer that the only thing in the basket is puppies. The basket might contain other objects like a blanket or a chew toy, but as far as the speaker is concerned the only significant objects in the basket are the puppies.
If I describe it as "a basket with puppies", there is a possibility that the basket contains other important things that are being overlooked. For instance, there could also be a sleeping cat.
If I hand my friend a basket with puppies (and also a cat), and she has an allergic reaction to the cat, I can claim to have been truthful. If I tell her it is a basket of puppies and don't mention the cat, she can claim I misled her.