Learn English – “not to know A from B” VS “not to know a B from a bull’s foot”

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I've been doing some research and I came across the idioms "not to know A from B" and "not to know a B from a bull's foot". As far as I know they seem to have the same meaning "to be ignorant" or "to know nothing". But I believe that somehow the 2nd one is more emphatic than the 1st one, but this is just my personal feeling. I'd like to know what do you think about this. Are they the same?

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Short answer: They are the same.

"not to know a B from a bull's foot" might be used in some rural places, or some non-USA places, but I've never heard of it. Other similar phrases (besides the "his ass from his elbow" mentioned above are "he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground" and "he doesn't know shit from Shinola". Shinola is or was a brand of shoe polish.

I don't think there is really any difference in the meaning of these. It's really a difference in where they can be said. I suspect that somebody wanted to say "shit from Shinola" in a place where that would be a dirty word, so he changed it to "A from B" to clean it up. Even if that's not what really happened, I would prefer using these in this order:

  • shit from Shinola
  • his ass from a hole in the ground
  • his ass from his elbow
  • A from B

That is, I will use the highest one on the list that is compatible with the place I'm at and people I'm with. I can't imagine myself using "A from B"--If I were someplace where I couldn't say one of the other ones, I wouldn't say anything like that. The point of this sort of phrasing is in the humor. In fact, if there is any difference at all in them, "A from B" might be stronger, because the person saying it is insisting on calling this guy dumb without a bit of humor lightening it up.

Ignore the fact that in real life it is easier to distinguish one's ass from one's elbow than it is to distinguish one's ass from a hole in the ground. And it's harder than both of those to distinguish shit from Shinola.

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