Learn English – Redundant prepositions

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This is a tooltip in an application:

Identifies the site name to which the GL code belongs to.

Can I say that it is incorrect to use "to" twice here and we should remove 1 of them?

Other examples:

Identifies the vendor to which the port speed is associated with.
Provides the vendor to which the milestone is associated with.

(They are both tooltips, too)

The repetitions here are incorrect, aren't they? Please confirm.

Best Answer

Yup - those prepositions are redundant. The short answer is that you're right and should follow oerkelens's advice.

Background in case you're curious:

One of the grammar rules that is drilled into the heads of many native speakers of American English in grade school is along the lines of: "IF YOU END A SENTENCE WITH A PREPOSITION, THE WORLD WILL EXPLODE AND ALL THE KITTENS WILL DIE". Many people learn the "to which" construction as a way to get around that.

  • "Identifies the vendor which the port speed is associated with." ENGLISH TEACHER SAYS NO!
  • "Identifies the vendor to which the port speed is associated." English teacher says yes!

But what happens in some cases is that the native speaker comes to sort of understand "to which" as its own relative pronoun, instead of a relative pronoun in a prepositional phrase. In that case, they perceive that their sentence still needs a preposition, so the "with" is tacked on at the end. That makes sense, because if you reorganized the sentence, you'd say "The milestone is associated with the vendor" - so "associated with" just kind of runs together nicely in the brain. It's understandable that the writer would want to tack on a "with" after "associated" since they appear together so frequently in other sentences.

This is the result of one of the longest and hardest-fought prescriptivism vs. descriptivism (PvD) battles in English. In my opinion what happens is this:

  • The prescriptivists rail so hard against ending a sentence with a preposition that...
  • ...regular speakers (who don't care about the PvD fight even a tiny bit) end up inventing something that makes sense to them, leaving...
    • ...the descriptivists scratching their heads about where on earth this came from, and...
    • ...people trying to learn English scratching their heads even harder about why everyone is writing incorrect sentences all the time.
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