Learn English – until, until after and quote from 1984

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Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.

Until they become conscious they will never rebel. Is this part meaning that
if they became conscious, they will rebel?

second part: they rebelled but it doesn't matter because they didn't do it consciously?

This part of 1984 is a bit tricky for me and I want to understand it properly.

Best Answer

Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.

The sentence is describing how the people are "caught" in a loop that they cannot get out of.

Until they become conscious they will never rebel

essentially says:

They can't rebel now, because they are not conscious yet. (People who are unaware of a good reason to start a rebellion generally won't rebel).

Then:

and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.

essentially means:

They will stay in their "unconscious" state until a rebellion breaks out.

Ergo, they are stuck.

It's worth noting that unconscious in this context means "unaware of their miserable existence, as if in a stupor." It doesn't mean the people have fainted or passed out.

NOAD defines it as:

conscious (adj.) having knowledge of something; aware: we are conscious of the extent of the problem.

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