Learn English – When is it an error to use the “both the + noun” combination

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I've stumbed upon this sentence in Mauilik V's answer on this site:

If you have an iPhone 6, for instance, you can use both the sentences to describe its functionality.

The use of the definite article in the bolded position seemed strange to me, and I edited the sentence to

If you have an iPhone 6, for instance, you can use both sentences to describe its functionality.

But I have doubts. Both is described as a pre-determiner, that is, it can precede the definite article (a central determiner), like in:

Both the girls were very proud of their achievements at school.

So, was I wrong in changing the sentence and if not, why? In which cases is it not OK to combine both and the?

Best Answer

We RARELY say "both the X" in English, but it is valid and meaningful. The use of "the" here emphasizes that we are talking about a particular set of X.

I can't think of an example where the meaning would really change between "both X" and "both the X", other than emphasis. The word "both" implies that I've already introduced two of something and I am now referring back to those two things, so with or without "the", I must be referring to the same two things.

There are other words that can take the place of "both" where the meaning could change. Consider "There are 100 men in this prison. All the men are vicious killers." Clearly by "all the men" I mean "all the men in the prison". But if instead I said, "There are 100 men in this prison. All men are vicious killers", now I'm saying that all men everywhere are vicious killers, not just the men in the prison. Which is probably not what I meant.

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