Learn English – By which? – Problem with relative clause

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for hours I've been scouring the internet for some sentences/grammar rules which bother me. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the answer, and that's why I decided to ask here.

  • Are sentences 1) and 2) correct? If not then why? Is sentence nr 5)
    the best way (and the most natural way for a native speaker) to
    express the idea?

" to go by a train

  1. 1) The train by which I went was delayed

  2. 2) the train by
    which I travelled was delayed

  3. 3) The train which I went by was
    delayed
  4. 4) The train which I travelled by was delayed
  5. 5) The
    train I travelled/was on was delayed"

Best regards

Best Answer

"to go by a train" I think the first problem is that we don't say "to go by a train" - the expression is "to go by train" (to go by car, bus, road, plane).

I personally would never use "travelled by the/a train" in this context either - I travelled by the train (that left at 10:00/that was delayed) sounds strange, though is perhaps ok (see comment below) - I (again personally) would be more likely to say I travelled with, or I was on, or I took.

Google, however, produces lots of examples of "the train by which" so I guess "the train by which I was travelling/travelled was delayed" - is also correct

Alternatives:

  • The train I was on was delayed
  • The train I was travelling on was delayed
  • My train was delayed

I went by a train means I walked past a train to my (Irish) ears...

Edit: "the train by which I travelled" gets just over 5000 hits; "the train by which I was travelling" only six! ("traveled": 3350; "was traveling": one) - so actually not so common after all - made a mistake when I said "lots of examples" above.

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