Learn English – the logic behind uncountable nouns

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I'd like to understand the logic behind uncountable nouns, such as "water", "meat" and others, specially "bread", for example.

I don't understand why can't we count them, since there are different kinds of water (e.g.: still, tap, sparkling, etc.), meat (e.g: beef, pork, etc.) and bread (baguette, bun, etc.).

Sorry if my question seems silly, but I'm not a native speaker.

Best Answer

As Gregory Bateson put it in "Every Schoolboy Knows",

The division of the perceived universe into parts and wholes
is convenient, and may be necessary, but
no necessity determines how it shall be done.

It is tricky, and it's not ideal, but there you are. That's language.

In English, nouns that normally refer to objects that can be identified as units have different rules (singular indefinite article, pluralization) than other nouns that refer mostly to

  • abstractions (leadership, competence, darkness, death)
  • emotions (fear, joy, surprise -- really just one popular subset of abstractions)
  • fluids (water, gin, lava)
  • aggregates of small granularity (oats, wheat, rice, sand, gravel).

These are "mass nouns", and can be pluralized, or otherwise used like count nouns. As noted,
this means different kinds (types, varieties, brands, categories) of the otherwise mass noun.

In addition to this conventional countification of mass nouns, indicating varieties,
there is also a conventional massification of count nouns, indicating essence.

  • You get a lot of car for your money when you buy X.
  • After the bomb he ate went off, there was Godzilla all over Times Square.

This is English. But in many languages that use numeric classifiers (Malay, Burmese, Mandarin, Japanese), there's no distinction to speak of between mass and count -- all nouns are mass nouns, and if you need to count or otherwise distinguish what English would use a count noun for, you simply use a classifer instead. For instance, Japanese

  • ni-hon no enpitsu ‘two pencils’
  • ni-mai no kami ‘two sheets of paper’
  • ni-ko no ringo ‘two apples’
  • ni-ko no nasu ‘two [round] eggplants’
  • ni-hon no nasu ‘two [long thin] eggplants’

English doesn't have numeric classifiers, so we can't use this strategy.