Learn English – “the same as” or “the same thing as”

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When comparing words, do you say

"X means the same as Y"

or

"X means the same thing as Y"

I understand you could get around this and be more clear by saying :

"X has the same meaning as Y"

or any other clearer formulation, but I am genuinely curious about choosing between the two phrases above.

Best Answer

'The same' has a determiner and an adjective, so it is leading to a noun. 'As' is not a noun, so the noun must have been elided. The most basic noun is 'thing', so that is what can be implied and inferred. PS: this 'as Y' is also a shortcut, for 'that Y [repeat verb]': 'X means the same [thing] that Y means.'