I just need to take control of one barony to restore the Roman Empire, but that barony is hands of a Holy Order, I've tried excommunicating them, and also tried to create a claim, but my counselor never creates a claim in the barony itself, any ideas?
How to reclaim a barony from a Holy Order
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Answering as best I can without knowing the full mechanics of succession and exactly how its applied to empires.
In General…
Each kingdom can have it's own succession laws, even if you control more than one - so you can have gavelkind in one kingdom you own and primogeniture for another. A difference in succession laws can mean that kingdoms end up with different heirs, so realms can fracture. What that happens, a game will continue with the heir of the primary title, with whatever other titles he (or she) ends up with.
Because of the above, succession for each kingdom is evaluated independently. The upshot of this is if your ruler has multiple kingdom titles but no Empire title, and all kingdoms have gavelkind succession, you will not lose control any of those kingdoms - since for each kingdom, the title of King will go to the primary heir. However if your ruler had any empire titles (e.g. you managed to become head of the HRE), I think his succession would be handled for the empire as a whole, and the kingdoms owned by the Emperor would go to different sons (or at least I'm pretty sure the de jure kingdoms would - I'm not 100% sure about this part).
In Your Specific Case…
In your case where you are vassal of the HRE, your position is less clear cut. Your kingdoms that are de jure part of the HRE should be bound by HRE succession laws - I'm not sure whether your other kingdoms will be similarly restricted so it might be worth checking. However since you say you have Agnatic-Cognatic Gavelkind in each kingdom, and you don't hold the HRE title yourself, each kingdom's succession should be evaluated independently with the result that each kingdom title goes to your primary heir, while vassals within those kingdoms will be distributed amongst all heirs as you'd expect.
As to why you get the succession warning when Germany is your primary title but not for Italy - I don't know for sure, but perhaps the game only warns you of titles you'll lose within your primary kingdom?
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Best Answer
If you don't have a claim on the title, and you can't usurp it, you might be able to invite a claimant to your court.
To do that, click on the coat of arms for that title to go to the title screen. One of the buttons on will say "Claimants", and this will reveal a new window with a list of everybody who has a claim on that title. Anybody in that list who has a green thumbs up next to their portrait, is willing to join your court if you click on them.
If there are no one willing, you may try to persuade one of those with a red thumbs down to win them over – however, there is no guarantee for success. Figure out why they won't join you.
Either way, if you are successful, the new claimant will join your court in approximately fourteeen days. You will then be able to press his/her claim.
If the title is lower than your own (as it is in your case), the claimant will become your vassal after the war. If the title is equal to yours or higher, the claimant will become independent.