When trying to convince Mordin to lie to the Krogran about the Genophage (so he doesn't die ), I find that the dialog choices to convince him are blanked out. How do I unlock them? Do I require a certain paragon/renegade rating?
Mass-effect – Mass Effect 3 – Genophage Cure, Extra dialog options when saving Mordin
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The Bioware blog recently posted about this information, which I'll summarize here.
Mechanics
Earning reputation in Mass Effect 3 is a bit different from the first two games. Rather than earning only Paragon and Renegade points, you can also earn Neutral reputation, so there are 3 types of rep in ME3.
This means you can now mix being Paragon/Renegade without worrying about getting locked out of the more difficult Charm/Intimidate options. When you earn Paragon/Renegade rep, it'll show up as Blue/Red, whereas if you earn Neutral rep, it'll increase your reputation bar's size as a whole while retaining the same blue/red ratio.
Click through for the larger version.
Your total reputation (blue/red/neutral) will determine whether or not you'll be able to pass a Charm/Intimidate block. The lines on the bar are "checkpoints" which serve as gates for more difficult dialogue options. I marked them with the thin lines of red, in case it was difficult to see (this is not my Shep, this is the photo from the blog post).
As per usual, you get rep from completing missions and making dialogue choices. For missions with no Paragon/Renegade choice but still have a large impact, you will get Neutral rep.
Story Impact
In contrast to older Bioware games, you can never actually be the villain in ME3, though this should be rather clear from how they handled the first 2 games. No matter what, you will be fighting to save the galaxy. The manner in which you do it will be what differentiates a Paragon from a Renegade. Also, bullying people into giving you more money or discounts won't be the crux of what makes a Renegade decision in this game. Who needs credits if there's nowhere to spend them because civilized life has been destroyed?
Reputation gain will be based on when you have to make a decision in the game. Here are a few examples of what kind of rep you would get, taken from the blog:
- Confronted on the Citadel by a desperate refugee with a gun, you give her some credits and help her find a place to sleep. (Paragon)
- As a human colony falls to Reaper forces, you order down an orbital strike, brutally killing thousands of colonists to prevent the Reapers from turning them into husks. (Renegade)
- You land at a turian fuel depot taken by Reaper forces and clear it out, enabling allied forces to keep fighting. (General Reputation)
TL;DR
BioWare has finally made a single-player game that lets you make morally grey choices without nerfing yourself, gameplay-wise. Rejoice!
The non-romantic paragon version of the prayer is (differences in bold)
Kolyat: Kalahira, this one's heart is pure, but beset by wickedness and contention.
Shepard: Guide this one to where the traveler never tires, the lover never leaves, the hungry never starve.
Shepard:Guide this one, Kalahira, and he will be a companion to you as she was to me.
The dialogue at the ending of the prayer is the same as you noted;
The prayer was not for him, Commander. He has already asked forgiveness for the lives he has taken. His wish was for you.
As indicated in comments the final line of the scene is different, with Shepard saying Good bye Thane, you won't be alone long. instead of Goodbye, Thane. Meet you across the sea.
You can view it at this link
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Best Answer
By blanked out, do you mean you see them on the left hand side of the wheel, but in grey?
If so, it means that yes, your Paragon or Renegade score isn't high enough.
Dialog on the top left/bottom left corner of the wheel occasionally shows up in Blue, Red, or Grey. Blue on the top Left is a Charm dialog, and often requires a minimum Paragon score. Red on the bottom left is Intimidate dialog, and generally has a minimum renegade score. Charm/Intimidate options for which you don't have sufficient reputation are shown in grey, because you cannot select them.
In the case of the Genophage cure, if you are in a position to convince Mordin to lie (which is a complicated set of circumstances all it's own), then either the Paragon or Renegade option will work.