Minecraft – GroupManager/Essentials: No users can use the /help command

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I'm in the user group owner. I have - help (4 spaces before the -) under every user group permissions in the groups.yml file. I logged into my server and it said "type /help for a list of commands." However, when I type /help (or when anyone does for that matter), it says, "You do not have access to this command."

Since that didn't work, in-game I used the command /mangaddp <group> help, adding the help command to every group that way. It said every group already had that permission when I did so. Still isn't working. Any ideas?

Best Answer

To bring all the comments together into an answer:

First, but less important, Issue:

From aytimothy:

Also, do you have a default group?

My note:

Default groups are what every person who is not specifically assigned to a group will be put in. If you don't have this, and you didn't move anyone into groups, this can cause issues

Second, but more important, issue:

From aytimothy:

And are you sure everyone has the bukkit.command.help permission?

From CommandFox

The permission should be minecraft.command.help, not just help

My note:

The way your file is set up is incorrect. Permissions are not stored as commands, but as something like plugin.subsection.permission.

So, if you have Essentials, or some other plugin, use it's respective permission -- for Essentials, it's essentials.help. If you don't you should use both Bukkit's /help permission, bukkit.command.help, and Minecraft's /help permission, minecraft.command.help.

Not required, but interesting, information:

The reason there are two (or three, if you have a plugin) different permissions for /help is because when you type /help, Minecraft will first look into the plugins for that command, then it will use it's own, and, if neither work, it will finally use Minecraft's.

This means that in terms of permissions, the heirarchy is like this:

plugin.help > if that fails > bukkit.command.help > if that fails > minecraft.command.help > if no permissions for any, it displays a permissions error to you.

More Permissions stuffs:

Bukkit Permissions

Using Permissions.yml

It is, however, recommended that you use a plugin for permissions rather than the native Bukkit perms system, and for this, I highly recommend PermissionsEx

Related Solutions

Minecraft – Bukkit Permissions Not Being Enforced

Your problem may be that you are an OP on your server. I had this problem when setting up one a server – OPs seem to have permissions to access all commands (the * permission node), even if Essentials is trying to override it.

Minecraft – Bukkit DefaultCommands Permissions

In my opinion, your best bet here is to use Essentials' GroupManager. It's simple to set up, gives OPs all available commands and lets normal users play with basic permissions. All you have to do is download the Essentials Suite from here, paste the Jar files into your plugins directory and start the server to let it generate the default files.

Then, open plugins/GroupManager/Worlds/World/Groups.yml with your favourite text editor and tweak it a little. By default, new players will be added to the default group, which has no building permissions. If you change build: false to build: true under the info section, they'll be able to place and destroy blocks, and use a very basic set of commands.

groups:
  Default:
    default: true
    permissions:
    - essentials.help
    - essentials.helpop
    - essentials.list
    - essentials.motd
    - essentials.rules
    - essentials.spawn
    inheritance: []
    info:
      prefix: '&e'
      build: false
      suffix: ''

  ...

If you want to give your users some more freedom, change default: false to default: true for the Builder group. You can also remove some commands you don't want them to have while still conserving the other ones, such as essentials.kit and essentials.kit.tools. You can also change the group of the already existing users editing plugins/GroupManager/Worlds/World/Users.yml.

For more advanced Permission management, I'd recommend Permissions 3.x before DefaultCommands.

Edit: Here's a really useful command reference for GroupManager: forums.fragnet.net/minecraft/588-essentials-command-reference.html

Best Answer

First, but less important, Issue:

From aytimothy:

My note:

Second, but more important, issue:

From aytimothy:

From CommandFox

My note:

Not required, but interesting, information:

More Permissions stuffs:

Related Solutions

Minecraft – Bukkit Permissions Not Being Enforced

Minecraft – Bukkit DefaultCommands Permissions

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