Savescumming in XCOM 2

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Does the seed generated that determines whether or not you hit an enemy, get a successful hack (with a bonus hack reward), or dodging overwatch fire) generate after you move or before you move, and is it random every time?

In XCOM: EU, savescumming was possible so long as you didn't move, as the seed was generated upon squad movement, and thus it was possible to reload saves over and over to get the desired outcome. Does the same hold true of XCOM 2?

Best Answer

The premise of your question is incorrect.

In XCOM: EU, savescumming was possible so long as you didn't move, as the seed was generated upon squad movement, and thus it was possible to reload saves over and over to get the desired outcome.

This is false. The seed is generated at the start of the battle - it has nothing to do with whether or not you've moved. Doing the same actions in the same order would always cause the same outcomes, so the method of save-scumming you mention would not have worked.

However, it is still possible to save-scum in XCOM:EU by taking different actions. For example, if unit A misses their shot, reload, have unit B do something, then try the shot again with unit A. This method of save-scumming still works in XCOM 2.

For more info, see the Random vs Seed article on the XCOM:EU wiki.


It's also worth mentioning that XCOM:EW added a "second wave" option called Save Scum, which generated the seed on every reload. Using this option, if a unit misses a shot you can simply reload and try again.

In XCOM 2, there are two mods that do the same thing. One works automatically, but is written in a way that makes it incompatible with a lot of other mods; the other restores compatibility at the cost of having to click a button.