Does it make sense to upgrade Siyalatas after a special upgrade level?
I'm playing passive, this means I normally won't click. Just in some cases for some boss fights. This means I make extensive use of Siyalatas (and some others). Currently is currently at level 4, which means I have a Bonus damage of 100% (on idle). I can upgrade it which will give me 25% more per level. But in fact I loose some Hero souls (currently 4) for the next update. 4 Hero souls will be a Bonus of 40%, while Siyalatas just give me 25%. Now… is there any advantage for me to upgrade him further?
Best Answer
The short answer is Yes & No; but let me explain a bit further:
Both Siyalatas and Libertas are key to an idle play style; so you're going to want to beef these guys up no matter what. The question then really becomes "When is a good time?"
The calculators linked in Texenox's post are definitely helpful (I've used them as well). However; they seem to break down a bit when you start getting ancients like Iris & Morgulis.
What you need to balance is the number of hero souls you currently have vs. what it would take to upgrade. As it looks like you're pretty early game; I probably wouldn't dip below 50HS in order to buy/upgrade ancients. If you have more than that; then go for it. (although I probably wouldn't pump 100 levels into him yet).
What's been working for me is that every time I ascend; I spend 50% of the Hero Souls I get on new ancients/upgrades. That seems to give me a pretty good balance between the HS DPS bonus & upgrades.
Response 1 You're probably going to want to wait on investing in Morgulis; he's better mid/late game; where you are; your HS are better spent elsewhere for the time being. There's no hidden benefit to Siyalatas (his boost actually decreases the higher he goes (-1% every 10 levels); but keep in mind this game is all about ratios; trading 5% of your HS DPS to get +25% idle damage is well worth it.
Response 2 Yep; you got it. Siya is another multiplier. Basically its DPS * HS Bonus * Siya bonus. That's why it's important to try and keep things balanced. An over simplified example is that if you have 10 "things"; 8 * 2 is worse than 5 * 5. I've updated my post to point to the Siya wiki page; the discussion in there is much more in depth as to when/why to upgrade. What you can always try is to look at your DPS; spend a level on Siya; and then see if you went up or down. If you went up; spend another level. If you went down; ascend a few times before spending any more levels. Even if you go down; the # of HS spent should be easily recouped within an ascension or two.