How do Challenge Winners Earn More Coins

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I think I'm having trouble understanding the way the coin economy works in Challenges, or maybe I'm missing something.

COINS GENERATED

❍ Each losing Pool generates 1 Bonus Coin per die rolled regardless of Success.

❍ Each winning Pool generates a number of Bonus Coins
equal to the total sum of all Successful dice in the Pool.

The winners will typically earn more (averaging 1.5 Coins per die) than the 1 Coin per die of the loser’s Pool, which is part of the economic advantage of trying to win Complications.

Let's say for example that there is a roll-off between 8 dice and 6 dice, with each rolling the average number of successes. That's 4 successes for the big pool, and 3 for the small pool. The big pool wins and gets 4 coins; the small pool gets 6 coins, i.e. the loser just got more coins than the winner, and this seems like a perfectly typical and average sort of distribution.

What am I missing that makes the winners get more coins than the losers on average? Am I perhaps overlooking some rule nuance that means winners get more bonus coins, or have made some silly slip when evaluating the average outcomes?

Best Answer

Winners sum the numbers on the faces of successful dice, not the number of successful dice

This could be written more explicitly in the rules, but it is most certainly the intention. The rules preceding this section do already describe summing the numbers on the dice as part of the mechanic for resolving ties:

If both sides have the same number of Successes, add up the sum of the numbers on the Successful dice in each Pool. The side with the highest total has the Edge.

In this context they're more explicit about stating the "numbers on" the successful dice, but they use similar language in the next section, regarding sums and totals.

Supporting this interpretation is the fact that the average result of a d10, if you treat rolls of 6+ as 0 (as only 1-5s are successes), is indeed 1.5, as the text describes - here's an anydice program to demonstrate.

(It should be noted that in practice, winning pools should average more than 1.5 coins per die - the fact that they are the winning pool in the first place means we are discarding any possible roll where the pool did not win, so the remaining possibility space is skewed somewhat towards rolls that had higher numbers of successes, and the larger the opposing dice pool was to begin with the more bonus coins the winner can expect.)