[RPG] Can either the Nondetection or Mind Blank spells prevent information about oneself being divined from others through the Legend Lore spell

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Can either the Nondetection or Mind Blank spells prevent information about oneself being divined from others through the Legend Lore spell?

In this instance, the party was trying to legend lore the true name of a legendary creature that had protected itself with nondetection and mind blank.

However, this entity's parents were not given the same security and were still in existence. Would legend lore be able to find the information through them?

Especially in question is the line from mind blank:

The spell even foils wish spells and spells or effects of similar power used to affect the target’s mind or to gain information about the target.

Best Answer

Mind blank foils legend lore

Mind blank states that:

The spell even foils wish spells and spells or effects of similar power used to affect the target's mind or to gain information about the target.

Legend lore states that:

The spell brings to your mind a brief summary of the significant lore about the thing you named. [...] The information you learn is accurate but might be couched in figurative language.

Legend lore is clearly a spell used to gain information and so it is foiled by mind blank.

Note that mind blank doesn't foil attempts to gain information from its target, it foils attempts to gain information about its target, which means that:

  • it doesn't matter whether that information is known to other people, written in a book, or long since forgotten.
  • it doesn't matter how legend lore gains information.

So long as the information is about mind blank's target, then attempts to gain it via spells (or similar effects) are foiled.


Whether nondetection prevents legend lore is unclear

Nondetection states that:

The target can't be targeted by any divination magic or perceived through magical scrying sensors.

Legend lore is certainly divination magic, but does it target the named/described person/place/object?

"Target" is ambigous in 5th edition and in the case of legend lore, I do not think a solid case can be made either way.

When you cast legend lore you are choosing something by naming or describing it and this is similar to other spells where you choose your target(s). However, other spells subject their targets to an effect, whereas legend lore doesn't: you learn information about something, but nothing happens to that thing.

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