[RPG] Can the spell Tongues be used to speak with most summoned creatures

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In order to make the most effect of something that has been summoned, you need to be able to communicate with it. As there are many summon spells this means there is a large number of languages.

Tongues

This spell grants the creature touched the ability to speak and understand the language of any intelligent creature, whether it is a racial tongue or a regional dialect. The subject can speak only one language at a time, although it may be able to understand several languages. Tongues does not enable the subject to speak with creatures who don't speak. The subject can make itself understood as far as its voice carries. This spell does not predispose any creature addressed toward the subject in any way.

I'm sure I've seen it before but cant find it, but what counts as an intelligent creature?
Can I cast the spell on myself and speak with every summoned creature (provided it counts as intelligent)?
If that does not work, can I cast this spell on my summons so they can understand me, as the spell doesn't say the target must be intelligent?

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  1. I'm sure I've seen it before but cant find it, but what counts as an intelligent creature?

Any creature with an intelligence score.

The Intelligence section of the Ability Scores chapter clarifies that:

Intelligence determines how well your character learns and reasons. This ability is important for wizards because it affects their spellcasting ability in many ways. Creatures of animal-level instinct have Intelligence scores of 1 or 2. Any creature capable of understanding speech has a score of at least 3. A character with an Intelligence score of 0 is comatose. Some creatures do not possess an Intelligence score. Their modifier is +0 for any Intelligence-based skills or checks.

I bolded the part that should interest you more. That section also gives a a couple of exceptions for creatures with no intelligence score:

Animals have Intelligence scores of 1 or 2 (no creature with an Intelligence score of 3 or higher can be an animal).

Oozes do not have an Intelligence score, and as such they have immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects). An ooze with an Intelligence score loses this trait. Regular plants, such as one finds growing in gardens and fields, lack Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores; even though plants are alive, they are objects, not creatures.

Vermin do not have an Intelligence score, and as such they have immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms). Mindless creatures have no feats or skills. A vermin-like creature with an Intelligence score is usually either an animal or a magical beast, depending on its other abilities.

And the int score table gives us three examples of creatures that do not have an Intelligence score (their Intelligence is "-"):

Zombie, golem, ochre jelly

The Animal subtype also confirms that a creature with 3 or more intelligence is not an animal. But be careful to not confuse that with animal companions with high int scores.

Now, we also know that animals can be trained, and even learn how to understand speech (with ranks on Linguistics). But most animals cannot speak unless you get them a Circlet of Speaking.

Tongues does not enable the subject to speak with creatures who don't speak.

This clause on the spell description is the only thing that prevents the spell from being used to understand animals, so we have to use Speak with Animals instead.

  1. Can I cast the spell on myself and speak with every summoned creature (provided it counts as intelligent)?

Yes.

You are satisfying all the requeriments for the spell to work.

  1. If that does not work, can I cast this spell on my summons so they can understand me, as the spell doesn't say the target must be intelligent?

Yes.

However, the spell says your target can understand speech, but does not say they acquire the necessary intelligence score to follow and rationalize whatever is told him.

They will be limited by their own intelligence score. So an animal will understand "danger", "hunger" or "help", but will not understand "what direction did the bandit go?", because that is probably too much for their limited intelligence.

Score Examples Description

-: Zombie, golem, ochre jelly

0: Comatose

1: Carrion crawler, purple worm, camel Lives by the most basic instincts, not capable of logic or reason

2-3: Tiger, hydra, dog, horse Animal-level intelligence, acts mostly on instinct but can be trained

4–5: Otyugh, griffon, displacer beast Can speak but is apt to react instinctively and impulsively, sometimes resorts to charades to express thoughts

6–7: Troll, hell hound, ogre, yrthak Dull-witted or slow, often misuses and mispronounces words

8–9: Troglodyte, centaur, gnoll Has trouble following trains of thought, forgets most unimportant things

10–11: Human, bugbear, wight, night hag Knows what they need to know to get by