[RPG] How do hit points work in 5E at low levels

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I picked up the DnD 5E Starter Kit today and we just played through the first encounter with the goblin ambush. I've never played before, let alone DMed, and it was only me and my girlfriend, so I played as a character too. I know I messed up a couple of things (I forgot the initiative bonus and the proficiency bonus), but I'm not sure if I got the hit points right.

Looking at the pre-generated character sheets, the Halfling Rogue has 9 hit points (1d8 plus Con modifier), but when I rolled damage from a Goblin arrow (1d6 + 2 piercing), it pretty much wiped me out in one hit! (they got the surprise attack on us)

I know I need to scale down the encounters when it's only 2 people playing, so there were only 3 goblins instead of 4, but it just seemed impossible, so I just basically bullsh*tted the hit points so we didn't both die straight away.

So can anyone tell me if I worked it out right or wrong? Or is it just something that will come with time and when I get to know the rules better?

Best Answer

Here's an excerpt from the D&D 5e Basic Rules v0.3:

Hit Points and Hit Dice

At 1st level, your character has 1 Hit Die, and the die type is determined by your class. You start with hit points equal to the highest roll of that die, as indicated in your class description. (You also add your Constitution modifier, which you'll determine in step 32.) This is also your hit point maximum.

So, let's look at that Halfling Rogue! The Rogue has a Hit Die of d8, so at 1st level, they will take the maximum of 8 and add their Constitution modifier, which in your case is +1, for a total of 9 Hit Points.

Beyond 1st level, on level-up you can decide to either roll the Hit Die or take the Average Number listed in the description, which in the case of a d8 is a 5. You add your Constitution modifier to that, too.

The thing you talk about, how a Goblin deals 1d6+2 from a Shortbow presumably, and how the Halfling Rogue has a mere 9 Hit Points. This is a common trouble for many editions of D&D. 1st level characters are fragile, almost always.

I will leave it at this for now, but I will be back after some XP calculation for encounter balancing, as 3 Goblins versus 2 people might be a little tough, which is something you found.


Cool, so it turns out 3 Goblins vs 2 1st level characters is an utterly deadly encounter! Encounter balancing is based on strict experience point calculation in D&D 5e, based on Party Character levels and the experience points a monster would yield. The following information can be found in the DMG on page 82 and the DM Basic Rules v0.3 on page 56:

A 1st level character's experience threshold looks like this:

  • Easy : 25
  • Medium : 50
  • Hard : 75
  • Deadly : 100

And when you perform these calculations, you add up the experience thresholds for all of the party members, in your case two 1st level characters, which gives us:

  • Easy : 50
  • Medium : 100
  • Hard : 150
  • Deadly : 200

So now we know what kinds of experience point thresholds there are for your party. Now we add up the experience point yield of the 3 Goblins, which are CR 1/4 - 50 XP each, to get 150 XP. This reached the Hard threshold of your party! Unfortunately, it is not that simple, because we must modify that effective difficulty to truly demonstrate the difficulty associated with strength in numbers. In our case, with 3 Goblins, we multiply the effective XP by two, for effectively 300 XP worth of monsters facing your party. This is well over the Deadly threshold of your party!!!

Note: This does not mean you should reward 300 XP for the encounter should the party manage to defeat them all. The XP reward is still actually just 150, to be divided between the players. However, as DM, you can totally just dole out XP if you feel like doing that.

So, as you can see, even two goblins would be a Hard encounter, and a single lone goblin would be an easier one to handle without the imminent threat of character or party death.

I hope I was of some assistance.


SO! Aramis has pointed out that I forgot about the section addressing Party Sizes of less than 3 or greater than 5 characters. Here is the relevant text:

Party Size

The preceding guidelines assume that you have a party consisting of three to five adventurers.

If the party contains fewer than three characters, apply the next highest multiplier on the Encounter Multipliers table. For example, apply a multiplier of 1.5 when the characters fight a single monster, and a multiplier of 5 for groups of fifteen or more monsters.

Which means for us that we don't multiply the Goblin's XP by 2, but rather the next step of 2.5, for an effective 375 XP versus the Deadly Encounter threshold of 200 XP. Two Goblins with a normal un-adjusted total of 100 XP would be multiplied by 2 rather than 1.5, for what is still a deadly encounter at 200 Effective XP.


Relevant Sources

The Player Basic Rules v0.3 and DM Basic Rules v0.3 can be found here on the WoTC site.