[RPG] How does Superior Summoning interact with effects that increase number of summoned monsters


I could have sworn we had a question on this already, but I can't find it via Google or RPG.SE's search bar.

A little background: EN World's Patreon-supported publication Trailseeker just released a new hybrid class, which is a druidic take on the wizard class. One of its potential focuses is on summon nature's ally, with that path's late-game ability increasing the total number of summoned creatures by one. I know I've seen an ability like that before in a non-3pp product (maybe Advanced Class Guide), so I don't feel this question is third-party specific, but this was the first time I'd seen that ability side-by-side with the Superior Summoning feat (which can be taken by that path as a bonus feat) and I realized…

Superior Summoning increases the number of monsters you get from a summon spell by one, if and only if the spell would already summon more than one monster. There's a related question on the Paizo forums about whether or not Superior Summoning kicks in if you summon monsters from one list lower and roll a 1, but today I'm looking at its synergistic capability with summon-enhancers: If I summon a creature from the top list a spell can access, thus normally summoning only one of that creature, will a class feature that allows me to summon an additional creature ALSO trigger Superior Summoning for a third creature? Or is there some "order of effects" or something else I'm missing?

Best Answer

There is no defined order of effects, no.

This is generally taken to mean that the controller of the effects may choose to use them in whichever order is most beneficial to him or her. I’m about 95% sure that 3.5 codified that somewhere, but I don’t think it was in core so I don’t know if Pathfinder ever wrote that down anywhere.

Still, in the absence of a defined order, it makes the most sense for the person who has the abilities to control the order.

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