[RPG] How to deal with a DM that throws encounters at us that are way above the party

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I'm not sure if the question was worded in a coherent way, but I have recently played in a Pathfinder game and a 5e game and both times the DM (same one both times) gave us overpowered encounters.

In the Pathfinder game we were four level 5 characters and the main boss was a CR 9 with five other creatures no lower than CR 4. It was a TPK.

In the 5e game we were a party of three level 1 characters and we were up against nine CR 2 creatures. It was also a TPK.

There was no way out of either combat. The Pathfinder encounter was in a dungeon we were locked in and the CR 9 was invisible and wanted to eat us and the others were hidden. The 5e encounter we were going through a town and the enemies came out of hiding and surrounded us. No scouting or anything would have shown it unless we were to investigate every single building, crate and barrel.

The DM has been a DM for a few years and he didn't seem fazed about it and we did talk to him but he was focused on the individual creatures and not the combination of creatures.

How can I tell the DM he needs to back it down and use appropriate CR creatures?

Best Answer

Talk to the DM

Give non-accusatory feedback

Express your point of view using neutral language and I statements. E.g. "When the encounter with 9 ogres ended in the death of all the characters, I felt helpless and it was not fun for me."

Ask for feedback.

Ask them if there were alternative endings they had in mind. It can take a while to get in sync with the other people's storytelling methods and ways of thinking about plots. Perhaps there was some secret or trick that they had expected the party to discover.

Discuss game expectations and desires with Players and GM

It sounds like your expectations for the game were not met. This may be the case for everyone involved. There are a number of ways to avoid or mitigate frustration in subsequent campaigns. Suggest doing a session 0 to facilitate this discussion.