[RPG] Is a speech trying to convince a crowd of something a persuasion or a performance check

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If I'm say, trying to convince a group of soldiers to follow me(a player) into a fight, or a crowd to riot, or otherwise convincing a large group of people via oration to do something (maybe it's a more modern setting and I'm trying to convince people to vote for me), would this be a persuasion check? (I want you to do x…) or a performance check (I'm doing something in front of a large crowd of people, trying to get something out of it).

If it's a performance check, at what scale do I need to switch between persuasion to performance?

Or is it both?

Best Answer

Persuasion to Convince a Crowd

The core rules include cases of groups in their examples of persuasion checks:

Examples of persuading others include convincing a chamberlain to let your party see the king, negotiating peace between warring tribes, or inspiring a crowd of townsfolk.

Performance is about Entertainment

Performance:

Your Charisma (Performance) check determines how well you can delight an audience with music, dance, acting, storytelling, or some other form of entertainment.

Combination

One might attempt to use a combination to overcome an obstacle where the end goal is to convince a large crowd. The character might begin with performances to attract enough people to form a sufficiently large crowd, and then transition to persuasion to convince the group of something.