[RPG] Should drawing weapons involve an initiative roll when combat isn’t going to happen

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I need some advice on how to handle a troublesome situation.

If my PCs are in a tense situation, and an NPC suddenly draws a weapon, should I ask my players to roll for initiative? Is this the most appropriate way to handle the situation?

In this case, the NPC isn't actually going to be hostile, but they don't know that. If I don't have them roll for initiative then they will "know" they aren't in combat. Obviously that's metagaming, but there is no way to avoid that.

By making them roll for initiative, if they win the roll it gives them the opportunity to strike first if they want, which would be a mistake. However, I'm worried it might be seen as misleading them, but it's the only way I know to give them the opportunity to make that mistake.

Also, the situation actually discourages violence because they are vastly out numbered, so I'm hoping that will discourage them from striking first, but I want them to feel thratened by the immediate action.

As a side note, generally when do you roll for initiative? Is doing it when weapons are drawn appropriate? Or is it best done when someone goes to attack?

Best Answer

There are two main situations in which you could call for an initiative roll:

An enemy makes a hostile action

In the situation you described I'm not sure that drawing a sword would call for this. Instead, tell the players what he does and see how they react. If they say "I shoot him!", then you roll. If they say "I attempt diplomacy to calm the situation" then you don't.

  • The enemy says something obviously threatening (e.g. "Prepare to die!" or "Guards, seize them!")
  • The enemy goes to move (e.g. to flee, take cover, grab an item, charge, etc.)
  • The enemy makes an attack (this may be a surprise round if you think it appropriate)

The PC makes a hostile action

Similar to above, this is anything for which the enemy would not just stand by and do nothing.

Here are some scenarios which might make this clear

Casandra is confronting a rival in a dark alley. It is not yet clear if there will be bloodshed or merely threats and a parting of ways.

  1. Casandra runs her hand through her hair (no initiative roll).
  2. Casandra runs her hand through her hair and flings a shuriken which was disguised as a hair clip (surprise round, followed by initiative roll).
  3. Casandra says "If I see you in my territory again I'll cut your throat." (intimidation roll, but no initiative).
  4. Casandra flees (initiative roll if her rival wishes to pursue).
  5. The rival draws a dagger (initiative roll depending on how Casandra reacts, no surprise round).
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