[RPG] the best way to retroactively fix a mistake? (2 shields)

dnd-4e

So I was asked to DM for a group in 4th edition. I live 2 hours away so we are doing 1 12-hour session a month. We just had our first session and I made it clear that I was doing and am willing to do some atypical things. I have only DM'd once before and have only mild familiarity with D&D 4th ed (still more than any of the PCs, 2 of the 5 are 1st-timers).

Anyway, I think that is all important background for understanding the situation I got myself into. During character creation, one of my PCs asked if he could make dual-wielding 2 shields work… and I said yes. So he is a Dwarven Cleric using 2 heavy shields and wears his holy implement about his neck.

Basically, I was thinking that (I may have been wrong about this) back in 3.5 shield bonuses to AC did stack. Also, logically, if you carry 2 shields you would be harder to hit than with 1… After doing some research on these forums I am now gaining the understanding that in 4E that bonuses of the same type NEVER stack (unless untyped, from the same source).

My first question is: What are my options for the best way to handle this situation?
Related question/clarification: Without going back on what I said while he was creating his character, is there a way to make there be some kind of penalty that balances out the extra +2 AC I gave him?

Also, he took a feat to mitigate or minimize (I do not remember which one and do not have his character sheet in front of me) the penalty from wielding shields. Can such a bonus reduce the penalty from a -1 to 0?

Basically… I realize I made a mistake per the written rules due to my own lack of familiarity with the rules. I want to know what my options are but also I do not want to upset my player too much by going back and changing what I did. Also, I have possibly made other such variances from the rules based on what makes sense logically…

The problem for me now is I want there to be some kind of balance in place to mitigate the bonus. I mean… he did take an extra feat to reduce the penalty. But he is still essentially getting +2 AC for free in exchange for not holding a weapon. One thing I have thought of so far is verifying the powers he chose do not have the "Weapon" keyword and only have the "implement" keyword. Also, he will never be able to wear an amulet b/c he needs his neck slot for the implement if his hands are full.

I would appreciate any advice the community here can give me. Thanks!

Best Answer

Three things you can, and should do:

  • Admit your mistake. Tell the player, "hey, I misunderstood the shield rule here, you can weild two, the second just doesn't do you any good." It's important to own up to this asap.
  • Let him rebuild his character from the ground up. You've clearly found out his character concept no longer works the way he wants to. Offer him the opportunity to rebuild the character completely with level appropriate gear etc.
  • Offer him the Testudo Shield fighter as an option. If he loves the concept enough to keep it, even without the AC bonus, MCing fighter and taking the Snapping testudo paragon path would be the best option. This is kind of a crummy option for a PP, but it's a cool concept.

  • If you decide to allow this, change the bonus type on the second shield. My recommendation would be to allow him to take the homebrew feat "two shield fighting" that allows him to use the shield bonus of the second shield as a feat bonus to AC (or AC and Ref, and additional defenses if he spends the feats on them). This is pretty fair, it's a bit high in heroic, on par in paragon, and probably a retrain candidate in epic. Check his final AC, but it should be about the same as a pally in full plate with a heavy shield. Make sure the penalties stack and offer a feat to remove one at heroic (he can take a feat to remove both in paragon).

All this to say, own up to your mistake, give him an opportunity to fix it. But as a note, if you have DDI, build your characters in the builder, it does all the math for you and it will catch a lot of these bonus stacking issues your pointing to.

Mostly though, just talk to your player, explain your mistake and see what you two can work out. Communication is good and your both learning the game, keep it honest, and keep talking.