Control a 20 amp outlet with a motion sensor

motion-sensor

I have a bathroom in my shop building that I use infrequently. I do not want to maintain hot water 24/7 there. I want to use a Bosch 2.5 gallon instant hot water device connected to a cold water line. I would like the outlet to become activated when it detects motion in the bathroom and stay on for 5 minutes or so, or until there is no motion after that time.

The main reason I want to do this is that if I have a switch or plug-in/unplug the heater when needed that I will forget to turn it off or unplug it when I am through.

I see most motion detectors can only control low amperage devices. This water heater is 1,400 watts. Is there such a thing as a motion-controlled outlet that can handle this load?

If not, I suppose I could rig a relay to be activated by the motion sensor to energize the outlet, but I would like to make it more simple.

Another option would be to use a rotary timer like on a hot tub. Are those direct connect to an outlet or do they need a relay involved?

This is the heater I am looking at:
https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Tronic-2-5-Gallon-Electric-Mini-Tank/dp/B0148O658Y/ref=pd_ybh_a_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SPZ8JFCMYAS3QM1A36WB

It is 110v and has an adjustable thermostat.

Best Answer

You misunderstand these products. Yes, "tankless heaters" are quite popular. And this isn't one.

  • Tanked water heaters have a reservoir (tank). The tank takes 10-30 minutes to heat up. Once you use the tankful, you are out of hot water for awhile.
  • Tankless water heaters have no tank, water streams through them and they flash heat it. Water is endless. But this takes a LOT of electricity (in the moment) and so you need fat, dedicated wires to the heater.

The tankless is a net win, because though it surges huge current during instants of hot-water use, the rest of the time it uses none at all, and that is a net win since it never heats water no-one is using.

You are talking about shutting off the heater when you're not using it to save energy, and only turning it on when you need it. Let's think about that.

  • Tanked water heaters use energy all the time. Once they initially heat the water, it cools (slowly due to the insulation) but nonetheless the heater must re-fire periodically 24x7 while on standby. This is a fair amount of "vampire power".
  • Tankless water heaters don't heat water when not being used, so they don't use any appreciable amount of energy when on standby.

So you see, the very idea of putting one on a motion sensor is pointless.

  • For a tanked water heater, it won't even start to warm up by the time the user wants to use the hot water. The user will need to do jumping jacks in front of the motion sensor for 10-20 minutes to get hot water.
  • For a tankless water heater, it will make no difference whatsoever, because the tankless isn't using energy while in standby. It's a waste of a perfectly good motion sensor.

A fair solution is to fit a 1500-1800 watt tankless in that location, with a valve to limit flow so you get respectable heat. But it won't be much flow.

An excellent solution is to run a new #12 or #10 homerun and install a 4000-6000W tankless.

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