Electrical – Amperage required for new sub panel

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I currently have a 200amp main panel that has no room for additional breakers. However I want to add circuits for the following:
1) 50amp circuit for a hottub
2) 50amp circuit for my garage for intermittent use of a welder and air compressor
3) 15-20amp circuit for general use

I plan to add a sub-panel this weekend. What I'm trying to determine, and I seem to get varying answers from the supply stores, is WHAT amperage do I need to supply the new sub-panel with? My initial thought was 100amps just to make sure I had the required power, but appropriately, it was pointed out that not all of these items would run at the same time, so a 60amp breaker may be sufficient to run the sub-panel.

I'd like to get some sound advice on which I should run, and what gauge of wire should be run between the two panels. My thought is to run a 4gauge regardless.

Any thoughts are sure appreciated.

Best Answer

If you're spending the money to add a panel anyway, you might as well reduce the changes of having to expand it later. Unless you're installing the second panel really far from the main, you're likely not going to spend much more to put in the 100 amp panel over a 60 amp panel. Oversizing the panel will not hurt anything but your wallet, so why not do it?

The installation will be exactly the same either way, the only differences will be the size of the breaker in the main panel, the main breaker in the new panel, and the size of the conductors between the panels.

You can read this answer for more detail, but likely you'll need four 3 AWG copper conductors to feed a 100 ampere panel. Of course the size will change based on the length of the run, and other factors. So make sure you verify the size once you know exactly how long the wires will be, and how they'll be run.

Did a quick search for wire prices, and it looks like it's about $0.20 per foot difference between a 6 AWG stranded copper wire and a 4 AWG stranded copper wire. Then another $0.20 per foot difference between 4 AWG stranded copper wire and 3 AWG stranded copper wire. So you'd be looking at an $0.80 per foot difference between 6 and 4 AWG feeders, and an $0.80 per foot difference between 4 and 3 AWG feeders.