How to claim counties of the duchy

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I am playing as an English count of Northampton in 1070s. The English king has given me the Duchy of Wessex, but I don't have contol over the Wessex county. I can't declare war on Wessex: all the conditions are met other than that crown laws don't allow me to attack other counts of the kingdom. But I want Wessex. How do I get it under my domain?

And I don't understand what is the point of being able to become a Duke of Wessex if I can't have any of its counties.

Best Answer

When you own a title but none of the titles below (the lieges of all the counts is someone else), then you basically hold a purely ceremonial title with no political power or benefits whatsoever. Thank the king for nothing.

As their de-jure liege you would have casus belli to claim any of the counties which belong to the de-jure duchy (Wessex, Dorset and Somerset), but as you found out, the medium crown authority of England forbids you from declaring war.

But what you can try is:

  • Start a faction to lower crown authority in England (Factions screen), send an ultimatum to the king (decision on intrigue screen) and hope the king either gives in or you beat him in the civil war which will follow otherwise.
  • Try to inherit the county through strategic marriage and murder.
  • Hope that some foreign power gains control of the counties so the English crown doesn't protect them anymore from your de-jure claim (might in some cases be easier to achieve through strategic murder than inheriting them yourself)