Starcraft – Unbalanced 4v4 Team Matchups

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My friends and I play as a 4v4 team and are currently ranked 6 in bronze. We are eager to break into silver, but have noticed that most of our matchups are against gold/platinum/diamond ranked players, and hence we get trampled.

How does the 4v4 team matchmaking work? Why is it that we are being matched up against players that are many leagues higher than us? We play between 8.30-11.30pm in our area – is it just a coincidence that when we play there are no other silver-level 4v4 teams around?

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The system is counting your skills over a very long period of time, it will try to keep your winning percentage to 50%. So if you won a lot of games lately they are going to make you play against teams that are much more skilled than you are. If you defeat the challenge several times they will make you advance league. But if you are only able to win VS people that are in your skill frame I don't think you will ever be promoted.

Also take in consideration that when you play 4v4, you don't always against 4 friends, you can play against a team of 1 guy in diamond 2 in bronze and 1 in diamond by example. From what I understand if you play with 4 friends they will consider you better than 4 random people in the same league as you.

8.30-11.30 pm is a pretty crowded period of time, so I don't think that has any influence, but there a much less people that play 4v4, so maybe that's why you think the match-up are not good if you only consider a short period of time.

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At the time of this writing there are:

Type      Total     Russia  Taiwan   SE Asia   Europe  Korea    NA    Latin America 
 All      25,670     862     1,707    1,299     7,371  2,678  11,380       373

Broken down by Type and League (approximate numbers)

 X          1v1         2v2         3v3         4v4        2Rand        3Rand        4Rand
Diamond     700         200          50          25         200          200          100
Plat       1400         700         200          50         400          400          300
Gold       1900        1100         400         200         700          700          500
Silver     1900        1300         500         200         800          700          500
Bronze     3500        2600        1600         600        1400          800          400
Total      9400        5900        2700        1050        3500         2800         1800

This data was tabulated by myself based on the website: http://sc2ranks.com/

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Starcraft – In StarCraft 2, are points comparable across leagues

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The accumulation of points is supposed to be proportional to the difference in skill between players. Unfortunately, the points you gain are unrelated to your ELO style rank. Because of things like: Bonus points, starting off at 0 points, and league promotion devaluing points, points don't correspond to a true ranking.

Instead, sites like SC2Rankings and Starcraft.org realize that the hidden ELO style rank that Blizzard uses is only accurately reflected in promotion between leagues. As a result, the best indicator of skill is what league a player is in. Since points are comparable inside of a league, the secondary sort these sites often use is that point metric (despite its deep flaws).

I'll probably write a longer explanation of how an ELO style ranking system should work to highlight why points don't, but the bottom line is still going to be: points aren't comparable between leagues.

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