[RPG] Explosive rounds in Pathfinder

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The Pathfinder version of the Hotchkiss 6 pounder (RL info) is listed as an 8d6 B/S/P siege weapon, and it's full description says:

The Hotchkiss 6 pounder is a direct-fire advanced siege firearm that must be mounted in place on a vehicle to be used. It fires high explosive (HE) shells that deal 8d6 points of bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage in a 30-foot radius around the point of impact (Reflex DC 20 for half).

but I'm having a hard time figuring out how to parse this. Does it mean that the 8d6 weapon damage listed is in addition to the damage of the explosion (in which case the shot does 8d6, and then there's an explosion), or that the weapon damage is simply shorthand for the 8d6 of the explosion?

The first case is closer to how splash weapons behave, which raises the further questions of whether the target needs to save against the explosion separately from taking direct-hit damage, and what happens on a miss (splash weapons still explode, but that's not explicit here).

The second case is closer to how a fireball works, but it makes a "miss" really strange and raises the question of whether you can target a square to avoid having to hit someone's AC.

Can anyone help me clarify this?

Best Answer

This isn't a splash weapon. Think of this like a Fireball.

A Fireball is a 30ft circle that deals damage evenly in its area. It doesn't deal damage on target and then span outward. It deals damage all at once.

This is just a Gun that fires CL 8 Fireballs.

So when the description calls it a direct-fire weapon, it's wrong? Or it means it just directly fires explosions? - Hey I Can Chan

Yes, strangely enough, the way it's worded, it directly fires explosions. Direct fire does not change the way it deals damage, simply its accuracy and range increments. In the weapon description, it is not a splash weapon. It is an area-effect weapon.

So, does it still explode if you miss? Can you miss on purpose? Fireballs aren't aimed at anyone in particular. - Bobson

Yes, it probably does explode wherever it lands, however, since it's not an indirect fire weapon, it would seem you don't get the benefit from it hitting anything other than your target. If you miss, you should assume that the payload kept going and shot off into the distance, far enough from your target that they wouldn't get hit with it. A direct-fire siege weapon targets something, not somewhere. To attack a square or area, you must have an indirect-fire siege weapon.

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